2015 Mustang Concept.

FryLoch

Thats Captain Slow to You
It is a pony car. Camaros and Mustangs all have PONY CAR dimensions. Two door coupe, long hood and short trunk with four seats....oh and American.
Uh, no, you fail attempt at being a smartass. It's a pony car. To call it anything else, esp. a muscle car, is stupidity. So, I'm sorry to rain on your parade if you believed you owned a muscle car.
It's a muscle car. You ask anyone else in the world except for a small percentage of older Americans and they'll all say muscle car.

It's the exact same setup as every other muscle car. It just did it better than pretty much all the others, same with Camaro and AMC AMX. They were lighter and typically shorter wheelbase. Midsize car, large engine, two doors, it's a fucking muscle car.
 

Rick_TL-S

Kickstart My Heart Gear
It's a muscle car. You ask anyone else in the world except for a small percentage of older Americans and they'll all say muscle car.
So, that means they're correct? Please.

The only reason so many people think they are is because so many people are also really fucking stupid & don't realize what the fuck a pony car is. Probably the same people who see old Corvettes & go, "Hey! Muscle car!" Do you know why the older Americans will say they're not muscle cars?

Because they were born in the fucking era of them.
It's the exact same setup as every other muscle car. It just did it better than pretty much all the others, same with Camaro and AMC AMX. They were lighter and typically shorter wheelbase. Midsize car, large engine, two doors, it's a fucking muscle car.
I must have missed the Mustang generation then where the car was a mid-to-full size family car suited for 4 or more passengers because that's part of defining a muscle car.
And no, the Mustang has never been a mid-size vehicle. Get that definition down first before you start trying to figure out what's a muscle car & what isn't.

They are not muscle cars. Never have been, & probably never will be. So, you can go ahead and argue it is til' the cows come home because the size & shape of the car is what really defines the term, "muscle car".
 
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Zomg

Random Kid
You guys are arguing over the dumbest shit ever. Rick_TL-S is that bmw guy that complains when people call his car a beamer instead of bimmer..
 

97Cobra Jake

Mustang Slut
I don't care what kind of car people want to call it as long as when it comes out it has that nice, deep curve over the rear tires.:crossfingers:
 

SilverGT

Formerly fastv6stang
So, that means they're correct? Please.

The only reason so many people think they are is because so many people are also really fucking stupid & don't realize what the fuck a pony car is. Probably the same people who see old Corvettes & go, "Hey! Muscle car!" Do you know why the older Americans will say they're not muscle cars?

Because they were born in the fucking era of them.
I must have missed the Mustang generation then where the car was a mid-to-full size family car suited for 4 or more passengers because that's part of defining a muscle car.
And no, the Mustang has never been a mid-size vehicle. Get that definition down first before you start trying to figure out what's a muscle car & what isn't.

They are not muscle cars. Never have been, & probably never will be. So, you can go ahead and argue it is til' the cows come home because the size & shape of the car is what really defines the term, "muscle car".

Well I'd say more than 90% of anyone I asked would say a mustang is a mucle car. That includes people on this forum. Like for example the lates 60's and early 70's gt500, boss, gt350H, mach 1, etc...
 
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Rick_TL-S

Kickstart My Heart Gear
Well I'd say more than 90% of anyone I asked would say a mustang is a mucle car. That includes people on this forum. Like for example the lates 60's and early 70's gt500, boss, gt350H, mach 1, etc...
You could ask Jay Leno if it was a muscle car & he'd still be wrong as well if he said, "yes".

GT500, Boss, GT350H, doesn't matter. All pony cars.
You guys are arguing over the dumbest shit ever. Rick_TL-S is that bmw guy that complains when people call his car a beamer instead of bimmer..
If you called my Bimmer a Beamer, then I have right to call you a dumbass for not knowing the difference between a car & a motorcycle. It wouldn't be my fault you don't know the correct terminology.

So, forgive me if I'm not one of those people who should let stupid fucks spew whatever they want & then get offended because they were too lazy to check their facts.
 

Dr. Satan

Sacred Cow Tipper

Bowtie

FERD EFFTEENTHOUSAND
Staff member
It's a muscle car. You ask anyone else in the world except for a small percentage of older Americans and they'll all say muscle car.

It's the exact same setup as every other muscle car. It just did it better than pretty much all the others, same with Camaro and AMC AMX. They were lighter and typically shorter wheelbase. Midsize car, large engine, two doors, it's a fucking muscle car.

Ummm....you mean to tell me a 64 Mustang and a 67 Camaro are mid-sized cars? I'm guessing you've never seen a 64 Impala or a 64 Continential. The Camaro and Mustang were smaller cars and those two have continued to be the same proportions as they had before.

Secondly, the Camaro wasn't allowed to have a large engine when it premired. The bigwigs at GM wouldn't allow the Camaro to have anything larger than a small block in the 1960s (the COPO ZL-1 Camaro's whole existence is based on this fact).

Next you're going to try and tell me they built muscle cars after 1972. :lmao:
 

mmadden55

Pontiac Pilot
Ok I will clear this up for you. Pony cars ar not the same thing but do overlap. A Pony car is defined by the Original Mustang hence the term Pony Car. A pony car is a compact 2 door sedan that seats 4. Examples include Mustangs, Challengers, Barracudas, Camaros and Firebirds and the Cougar. Muscle cars were any 2 door automobile with a big powerful engine for it's size. This included the high performance models of all the aforementioned, plus many performance models of compact sedans, like Gts Darts, SS Novas big motor Falcons and Comets etc. As well as full size cars, Sport Furys, SS impalas Certain models of the Galaxy etc, and of course the mid size versions. Not all Mustangs are Muscle cars. But all Mustangs are Pony cars. Same for Camaro Firebird Baracuda etc.
 

mmadden55

Pontiac Pilot
Oh and the Mustang concept looks really cool. And Bowtie a coupe only seats two though in recent years they have gotten loose with that definition. In short it is a roofed sedan that seats two only. Most coupe these days are sports cars and people routinely mix them up with pony cars and sports sedans. Examples are Vette Fiero, Viper 39 Ford business coupe.
 

Bowtie

FERD EFFTEENTHOUSAND
Staff member
Ok I will clear this up for you. Pony cars ar not the same thing but do overlap. A Pony car is defined by the Original Mustang hence the term Pony Car. A pony car is a compact 2 door sedan that seats 4. Examples include Mustangs, Challengers, Barracudas, Camaros and Firebirds and the Cougar. Muscle cars were any 2 door automobile with a big powerful engine for it's size. This included the high performance models of all the aforementioned, plus many performance models of compact sedans, like Gts Darts, SS Novas big motor Falcons and Comets etc. As well as full size cars, Sport Furys, SS impalas Certain models of the Galaxy etc, and of course the mid size versions. Not all Mustangs are Muscle cars. But all Mustangs are Pony cars. Same for Camaro Firebird Baracuda etc.
Nope. Only mid-sized sedans.
 

mmadden55

Pontiac Pilot
Nope. Only mid-sized sedans.
Sorry Dude I am right and you are wrong. I grew up in the Muscle car era saw the new car ads read the magazines even owned some. So end of argument. Can't believe you made such a silly statement. I am disapointed in you.
 
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